ran mak

(replying to Saagar Jha)

@saagar yeah, this is good stuff and i didn’t know about this. i haven’t examined the exploit too closely, but i get what it is doing. i would have expect that flippancy internally, but to get that as a response to a legitimate security concern means that i should probably think hard about what you’ve advised.

i think, unfortunately, this is a reality vs. ideal situation. this is not the security model we want: the tools for evaluation (dtrace) are blocked philosophically and logically by SIP. but, when you disable SIP, you’re not thinking about typical ACLs, you need to go to `dyld`, because for apple-signed (or those with the entitlement) executables it behaves differently.

there are a lot of red flags there.

but also, you have done the rare thing of convincing someone on the internet that they need to reconsider their views.

Saagar Jha

(replying to ran mak)
@ranvel I am generally of the opinion that Apple should open AMFI trusted keys to third party developers