Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
new guideline for software bloat: the demo version should be downloadable in under an hour on a dialup connection (~20MB) and the full version should fit on a CD-ROM (~650MB) together with all the documentation, sample content, and demos for a selection of other products
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Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
@hikari so no music or high quality voiceovers, gotcha
Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
(replying to Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤)
@efi you can fit plenty of those on a CD, you just might have to avoid them in the demo!
Claire
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
@hikari Remember when, as late as 2011, nearly all major linux distros were able to fit into a single CD (not DVD):
- an entire OS (with multiple locales, the most common non-free codecs + drivers)
- one of the "heavyweight" desktop environments (and sometimes options for a lightweight WM like openbox as a fallback AND compiz for extra flair too)
- a full web browser, email client, video player, music player, office suite, pdf viewer, image editor, some simple games...
- and a whole bunch of other software depending on distro (IRC, FTP, remote desktop, bittorrent, blogging client, python, etc)
Sure, Live CDs used a lot of compression and legacy x86 releases tended to be a bit smaller than x86_64 and even then there was a shift to bigger ISOs that needed DVDs and USB instead...
...but idk, we're at a point where a lot of software I *have* to use is anywhere from 1/5 to 1/2 the size of an entire live cd image a decade ago
Cwiiis
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
@hikari totally agree, though if you were getting 20MB in under an hour on dialup, that's some crazy dialup... Best I ever got sustained was about 7KB/s 😛
Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
(replying to Cwiiis)
@Cwiiis you can download 20MB in less than an hour at 7KB/s
Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
‪fun fact: despite me not having put much effort into size optimisation, touchHLE passes this. on the other hand, every Electron app fails‬
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Saagar Jha
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Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
‪honestly i'm not even joking here, these are reasonable guidelines. if the full version of a piece of software that isn't like, a game, demands more than a gigabyte of disk space then something is seriously wrong, and few things should need even a tenth of that‬
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Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤
(replying to Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many))
@hikari this is why I don't use VS code even if it's not technically owned by ms or whatever
✧✦Catherine✦✧
(replying to Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤)
✧✦Catherine✦✧
(replying to ✧✦Catherine✦✧)
@efi @hikari 380 MB, this is smaller than even a base install of BCB5 (and BCB5 got to be 32-bit! that saves quite a bit of space!)
I think VS Code is fine, space-wise
✧✦Catherine✦✧
(replying to ✧✦Catherine✦✧)
@efi @hikari vs code loses overall because it doesn't have a sick installation screen (this is pre-BCB but still Borland)
Iwasawa 🌟 (one hikari of too many)
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‪maybe the way to feel like you have a powerful computer is to only use software from back when cpu speed, memory and disk space were treated as precious. (slaps lid of macbook with 8GB ram and 512GB ssd) this bad boy can fit sooo many serious 1990's productivity apps in it‬