Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

I see a lot of posts on my feed that imply something very bad for trans/queer people in the US might have happened recently. What was it? (I've been doing my best to not follow that kind of news for the good of my health.)

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Saagar Jha

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@hikari “Recently” in this case means “last couple of months” I believe if that helps you adjust your understanding of the level of badness
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Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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@saagar hmm, the posts i'm thinking about are from like the last three days, but maybe it's coincidence

Saagar Jha

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@hikari Florida did a bathroom thing last week I guess, but I don’t recall anything major since then

Saagar Jha

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@hikari I guess if you haven’t been following on that timescale either the TL;DR is that legislators in many states have actively introduced and passed legislation to deny human rights to people who identify as transgender

Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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@saagar I'm vaguely aware of the wave of various horrible laws but not most of the details. I guess I was assuming there was some particular inflection point of horribleness recently

DCoder 🇱🇹❤🇺🇦

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@hikari @saagar

It’s probably a combination of Florida criminalizing more and more things, and a growing number of other states following Florida’s example. And there’s also the debate between “you can just leave!” and “no, we can’t, leaving is incredibly expensive”.

You can see the ugly details at github.com/jmaslak/trans-trave . Florida’s incoming laws are bad enough to warrant an advisory against any travel to Florida.

Saagar Jha

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@dcoderlt @hikari Yeah there’s also the part where it becomes less “why don’t you just move. lol.” and more “the terms ‘refugee’ and ‘asylum’ are now relevant for my situation because I can’t have my rights guaranteed here”

Ridley @ WATCH LYCORECO

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@hikari someone in open-source wrote a long toot about the trans experience and the orange website took it poorly until the thread got flagged

Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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@rcombs oh

Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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alternatively: did someone do a "tech should be apolitical" recently

I Can't Believe It's Not Zero!

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@hikari I haven't gone hunting for it, but given the sources of the chatter, I think someone did at least a "tech should be apolitical" on one of the Asahi linux channels.

I Can't Believe It's Not Zero!

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@hikari Apparently Alyssa's post briefly made HN's front page and that went about as well as you'd expect.

Saagar Jha

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@steve @hikari I would be shocked if it got more than 5 comments before being flagged

Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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@saagar @steve the site tolerates such a wide spectrum of political discussion: from white liberalism to white fascism and everything in between!

Saagar Jha

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@hikari @steve Honestly politics should be banned from Hacker News, not because it doesn’t belong near technology, but on account of the site being unable to moderate those discussions
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Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

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@saagar @steve politics should be banned from HN because currently the ban only extends to certain relatively left-ish topics and the ban is enforced by the userbase :/


I Can't Believe It's Not Zero!

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@saagar @hikari are you implying that an overwhelmingly straight cis male middle-class reactionary userbase who believe themselves to be the put-upon minority may not be the most accurate judges of the boundaries of acceptable political discourse?

Saagar Jha

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@hikari @steve If you design your site around longtime users flagging awful content things don’t work if they end up being the best at deciding which discussions they never want to enter