Breadbin

(replying to Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many))

@hikari I have yet to have a proper positive experience with Java after the first few years it was out. It has just turned into the most obfuscate mess of over design and the least easy to deal with solutions possible.

If I see that anything is related to Java I want to avoid it.

YMMV.

Kanbaru 🌟 (one hikari of too many)

(replying to Breadbin)

@breadbin I've occasionally had pleasant interactions with it but I do find Java frameworks tend to be overwrought